I am the caregiver for my 86 year old Mother. Along with 3 nurses that help me to care for her around the clock. My older brother who lives 2000 miles away and visits my Mother 4 days a year, is POA has been micromanaging everything I order or buy to take care of my Mother. Even canceling and rescheduling things that I have ordered to help take care of her. Causing me to have to run out and get things last minute and usually end up paying more than I would have, because we ran out of something. Not to mention the inconvenience. I have been paying cash out of my own pocket to pay for hair cuts and our weekly bingo games. My Mother wants to pay for things for me because I am always there helping her. So I will buy certain things my Mom says I can to pay myself back for the cash I’m putting out. Can my Brother keep my Mother from helping me if she wants too? She does have dementia, but she can still reason and comprehend things. She is not happy with the way my brother has been handling things, even asked me how we could change things. Meaning give someone else her POA. I told her I didn’t think it was possible. She has not been deemed incompetent by any Dr. or Court.
Also, if your mother ever needs to apply for Medicaid (which is very common) they have a 5-year "look-back" which is very strict and demands very good record-keeping. Your mother's well-meaning purchases on your behalf would probably be viewed as "gifting" her assets and could cause her to not qualify when she needs it most, or incur penalties. Sorry, but you need to stop receiving those things from her without your brother's permission. He is ultimately legally responsible for her medical and financial well-being. Don't make it harder for him than it already may be. Please just be cooperative with him in this, for your mom's sake.
A caregiving contract should be set up and wages paid with taxes, SS and FICA deducted.
Clearly your mom wants the dignity of paying her own way.
If your mother is unhappy with how her son is managing her money she does have the right to seek a consultation with an elder/family law attorney. Does your mother still have her checkbook? Why does your brother have veto power over what sounds like nickels and dimes? Why does your mother not have money to pay for a hair cut?
Who was the attorney who prepared her POA papers? Can she call him or her up and make an appointment? If she can still do those instrumental activities of daily living herself, then the attorney can explain her options and determine whether or not she understands the basis for a caregiving contract with you and the basis for changing her POA.
I sympathize with you brother's plight; he is likely a "numbers" guy while you handle "real life". He is worried about her money lasting.
So, yes, I would take on the POA knowing that this requires CAREFUL management and bookkeeping and is NOT EASY (I am doing it, so know that) and you must be accountable for every cent. If not, tell your bro you will not be micromanaged, and if he continues it you will put your mother into care, where he will understand how much life REALLY can cost.
So you have two choices. Speak with him, or speak with Elder Care guy. AGAIN, watch what you wish for. POA is NOT an easy task.
That’s a deep six-figures a year being paid.
So does mom have lots & lots of assets? Like well over 1M? & with all sorts of investments that are continuing to add in more $$$?
Do you have a bead on moms assets & how feasible for continuing to pay for 24/7 nursing staff plus property costs for 5 yrs future?
I ask cause I bet your brother - as her POA - is looking at the overall situation and an 86 yr old who needs 24/7 oversight means her private care costs are hemorrhaging $. He is taking his “fiduciary duty” as POA super seriously. & he is horrified for her future needs and is flummoxed as to just how to deal with you as it sounds like you are somewhat interdependent on her $. That from bro’s viewpoint, $wise putting mom into a facility will actually be better use of her $ as it will likely cost less than 3 RNs & you; and it’s 24/7 staff & services for her so beyond whatever can be done in a home; and facility will take care of incidentals needed like they have on site beauty shoppe; and facility has activities programs and transportation too. So no more of your asking every so often for $ for bingo, or haircuts.... etc.
To me, you & bro need to have a sit down with whomever is her financial advisor to take a hard look at her $ and what is the projected outflow for the next 3 years ASAP. The $ just may not be there. If so, it’s best to know that now and start to sell whatever needed to ensure her care for another 3-5 years private pay in a facility. 86 with 24/7 care isn’t going to get better at 87. If you are dependent on moms home for your having a roof over your head, or using her car, you need to work out something equitable to compensate you for your past caregiving. The financial advisor will have estate attorneys they already work with that can come up with options for you all. I assume mom has lots of $ and Medicaid is not ever in her future so that could be done.
Your brother seems to have concerns, 24/7 care is very, very expensive.
Are you living with her? Using her car? There must be more to this story.
My sister in law was POA and trustee for her father. She resigned both positions and appointed my husband as POA and trustee since managing a sick, incapacitated elder from 1,000 miles away was not realistic.
You buy certain things with your mother's permission to pay yourself back for certain things for her that you've paid for at your own expense because your brother has interfered with the supply chain...
Come *on*. Your mother has dementia. Your brother has POA and is accountable for her finances. You are the primary caregiver, and you are accountable *to* *him* for money you spend on your mother's behalf.
If your mother's dementia is really not affecting her too badly as yet, she is free to change her POA. I'm not saying I think she should. I think it would be far better for your brother and you to work out a clear, straightforward system for managing her expenditure.
If your mother wants to compensate you for your time, she needs to tell your brother that and he will need to be certain that she's not doing so under pressure from you. She's still perfectly entitled to do it, if she can afford it, but the way you and she are going about it now leaves you wide open to accusations of undue influence and financial abuse of a vulnerable elder, and you can't be surprised that it's freaking your brother out. Little presents and treats may be sweet gestures of appreciation normally, but in this context they are simply a no-no.
What sort of thing has he rescheduled and cancelled?
I'm wondering what the will and/or trust states. Does the POA brother get the home when mom passes? Is the home value to be divided among the surviving children? A $ 1.5 million home is a huge asset that could finance a very nice assisted living continuum of care unit for mom, so that daughter would not have to try to juggle care between herself and 3 outside certified nursing assistants.
If POA brother is living in an expensive home for sub market rent, he may be concerned that the cash outflow will impact his lifestyle (i.e. the home may need to be sold to provide cash for mom's care.) That is Mom's property as far as we know, and it's reasonable to assume that her assets will be used to finance needs later in life. If I were the LW, I'd tell brother since he's the POA, he needs to figure out a care plan for mom and take it from there. LW is apparently getting nothing but grief from this arrangement and I suspect the brother may be dipping into the mom's assets for his own use. Been there, know how money will distort people's sense of honesty.
It's hard to tease out what in his behavior is good fiduciary duty and what is sheer meanness.
I don't see how a caregiver can fulfill their obligations to the person in their care without being able to talk to doctors, help mom live as she wants, etc. POA seems to be blocking her for unknown reasons, but he's certainly happy to let her be a caregiver so he doesn't have to take direct responsibility.
This sounds toxic and a little dangerous, in the sense that POA holds all the cards and could hit caregiver later with accusations. If I were her, I'd get a lawyer and (as some on here have recommended) come up with a contract covering all eventualities, and then keep meticulous records so if someday you have to go to court, you've got your rear end covered.
This is madness. Why are you being bullied by your brother? If your mother hasn't been deemed to be incompetent, she can change POA to you. Would she do that?
I suspect your brother is trying to preserve as much of the estate as possible for HIM and HIS FAMILY.
What does the will say?
If he's the POA and HCPOA and your mother won't force a change, then she should be living with HIM. You cannot be an effective caregiver/care manager if you aren't allowed to talk to her doctors.