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If a person has power of attorney, is he or she legally responsible if the patient drives and hits/kills someone? The patient's MRI was normal and he was diagnosed as having very early-stage dementia.
If your parent is competent, if your parent has not been officially declared incompetent, then you are not responsible for his or her welfare. Your parent is responsible for his or her own decisions. While that is the case, your POA does not give you the authority to override your parent's wishes and you therefore cannot be held responsible for the consequences.
I beg to differ this time CM. My mother has not been declared incompetent. My brother was living with her, in her house. While he was at work one day, the neighbor called the police and APS was also called. He was charged with neglect of an elder. They said he left her home alone for hours at a time (he worked). Totally different scenario, of course. That being said Bella7, POA doesn't make you any more responsible for an adult than no POA. Guardianship would. If father's doctor has said he is competent, then the responsibility is off of you Bella7.
He did nothing to make sure she was safe. He inherited her from my dad and treated her as my dad did. She has been babied and is very stubborn. Brother also has issues, come to find out. He is an alcoholic and animal hoarder so I think it is a mental health issue, not an issue of neglect. Charges unresolved at this point. It's all very dysfunctional. I know you are not unsympathetic. I have read many of your posts and know you to be fair and kind but also very forthright!
Thanks to everyone who answered my question about the responsibilities a person with POA has. The answers were extremely helpful. The suspicion is that the patient may have access to car keys he's hidden, but this is unlikely since the entire house was thoroughly cleaned from top to bottom and his belongings purged.
Possibly because they could be charged with theft, as in the intention permanently to deprive a person of his property.
The "patient" as Uncle John describes him has just had a normal MRI and what sounds like a very tentative diagnosis of "very early-stage dementia." Based on what, we know not. But in any case he's not likely to be legally incompetent, and the family can't just pinch his car unless they've got a lot more than that to go on.
Let's hope they can persuade him instead, before things get any worse.
But if he hadn't been living with your mother, if in fact your mother had refused to allow him into the house or to let him call other people to assist her, then he couldn't have been charged. As it was, he was necessarily aware of her condition and still left her alone. Had he asked for an assessment for her? What was the outcome of the charges?
I'm not unsympathetic - as if! How could I be? - to the difficulty of combining care taking and paid work; but if he couldn't be there what did he do to make sure she was safe?
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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The "patient" as Uncle John describes him has just had a normal MRI and what sounds like a very tentative diagnosis of "very early-stage dementia." Based on what, we know not. But in any case he's not likely to be legally incompetent, and the family can't just pinch his car unless they've got a lot more than that to go on.
Let's hope they can persuade him instead, before things get any worse.
I'm not unsympathetic - as if! How could I be? - to the difficulty of combining care taking and paid work; but if he couldn't be there what did he do to make sure she was safe?
Might be quite a neat test!
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