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Probably not, technically, but if your husband has dementia he probably should not be driving. If I were you I'd let my son be the bad guy under his POA role.
If your husband's dementia is very mild and you think he can still drive safely, offer to have him tested by a facility set up to evaluate handicapped persons. Even if they determine that he is currently safe keep in mind that this could change at any time.
Sometimes people think, "Oh the worst that could happen is he'd get lost." No. The worst that could happen is that he uses poor judgment in an emergency and someone dies as a result.
I think that would be stretching the duties of POA, that's more along the lines of guardianship. However, if he has determined that Dad is a danger to himself and the community and has a backup transportation plan in effect, then I'd let him be the one to handle it. I'm sure it wasn't a decision made lightly.
Loss of independence and especially the driving ability is the worst part of getting old. And, barring an early death, we are ALL going to get old. No one is immune. So, while we are on one side of this situation now, we are all going to be on the other side one day. Unfortunately, some do not give up easily, so that it becomes a battle.
Be glad that your son loves YOU enough to protect you. And he loves his father enough to protect him and the citizens of your town.
FF, thanks for posting that - it's hard for us to follow various threads sometimes. Weeone, I agree, we need to know if this is something you *want* to happen (as indicated in your previous thread) or if you're not wanting your son to do that.
Either way, a POA is entitled to make decisions on behalf of your husband - but taking keys away is kind of a gray area. A POA makes decisions on finances, health matters, etc. I would definitely do as others have suggested - get your husband tested at a driving facility. If he has Alzheimers, as you mentioned before, his cognitive ability may be impaired enough to make his driving dangerous. As Jeannegibbs said, his getting lost is not the only concern here. He could hurt or kill himself or someone else.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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If your husband's dementia is very mild and you think he can still drive safely, offer to have him tested by a facility set up to evaluate handicapped persons. Even if they determine that he is currently safe keep in mind that this could change at any time.
Sometimes people think, "Oh the worst that could happen is he'd get lost." No. The worst that could happen is that he uses poor judgment in an emergency and someone dies as a result.
Loss of independence and especially the driving ability is the worst part of getting old. And, barring an early death, we are ALL going to get old. No one is immune. So, while we are on one side of this situation now, we are all going to be on the other side one day. Unfortunately, some do not give up easily, so that it becomes a battle.
Be glad that your son loves YOU enough to protect you. And he loves his father enough to protect him and the citizens of your town.
Either way, a POA is entitled to make decisions on behalf of your husband - but taking keys away is kind of a gray area. A POA makes decisions on finances, health matters, etc. I would definitely do as others have suggested - get your husband tested at a driving facility. If he has Alzheimers, as you mentioned before, his cognitive ability may be impaired enough to make his driving dangerous. As Jeannegibbs said, his getting lost is not the only concern here. He could hurt or kill himself or someone else.