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What were the patients wishes? We knew my dads wishes and the palliative care nurse verified it with him. When he was taken off the machine it took at least 10 minutes before he passed. He never wanted to live hooked up to a machine. It was the hardest thing we could possibly go through. We did it because we loved him. I hope if I'm ever in that situation someone will love me enough to let me go.
Tonya, I am so sorry for your loss and the discomfort you are feeling about someone else decision to remove oxygen from a dying patient Oxygen for many people is used as a comfort measure but for others such as those with lung cancer it is essential. Your loved one was clearly at the end of life and had expressed wishes not to be kept alive artificially. The person who made the decision I am assuming had the legal right to do so, and the patient might have felt uncomfortable with the tubes in his nose so if it was not essential then there would be no harm in removing it although it is usually left on. The patient was clearly in the last stages of the dying process as they passed so soon so keeping it on would not have prolonged the life. it is sad that you were not able to visit and make your good byes so try and focus on the good times you have with your loved one. It seems very insensitive to post that comment on Facebook but not knowing the family dynamics involved it is not fair for an outsider to comment on that
I'm a bit confused. The oxygen was not for life support -- it was just "extra." So taking it off presumably did not contribute to his dying.
Having to make life and death decisions, or any decisions really at the time of death, is very, very stressful. Each of us does the best we can. I hope you will keep your opinion to yourself, as far as family goes. Come here to vent and explain what you would have done differently. There is absolutely no way to go back and change the decision, so why punish an already-stressed out relative for doing their best?
Death pretty much comes when it will come. It doesn't often consult the convenience of family or friends. I am very sorry you didn't get one last visit in. Our father died while one of my sisters was on an airplane to see him. She would have liked that last visit, too.
I understand your distress at not having seen him. I don't understand why you are blaming that on the decision to remove "extra" oxygen.
In any case, please accept my condolences at your loss.
I thought so too! She posted to FB that if anyone disagreed with her decisions,to keep their opinions to themselves.i was suppose to see him again that very evening and a couplre more were..we found out her discsion via FB 😓
There are a lot of inappropriate things people say, or write on the internet. If the family member was argumentative on Facebook talking about the death of another human being, it’s just unbelievablely tacky. I’d block them.
I am sorry for your loss, but I agree with not second-guessing the decision.
Hospice put my mom on oxygen, but she kept taking the cannula off (even when she was pretty much out of it) so maybe this person was uncomfortable with it on.
They were given 3 days to a week.But a family memebef said they decided to take them off their oxygene.didnt think that would be the right thing to do do..he wasnt even prounoced dead til 6 minutes lter
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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it is sad that you were not able to visit and make your good byes so try and focus on the good times you have with your loved one. It seems very insensitive to post that comment on Facebook but not knowing the family dynamics involved it is not fair for an outsider to comment on that
Having to make life and death decisions, or any decisions really at the time of death, is very, very stressful. Each of us does the best we can. I hope you will keep your opinion to yourself, as far as family goes. Come here to vent and explain what you would have done differently. There is absolutely no way to go back and change the decision, so why punish an already-stressed out relative for doing their best?
Death pretty much comes when it will come. It doesn't often consult the convenience of family or friends. I am very sorry you didn't get one last visit in. Our father died while one of my sisters was on an airplane to see him. She would have liked that last visit, too.
I understand your distress at not having seen him. I don't understand why you are blaming that on the decision to remove "extra" oxygen.
In any case, please accept my condolences at your loss.
Hospice put my mom on oxygen, but she kept taking the cannula off (even when she was pretty much out of it) so maybe this person was uncomfortable with it on.
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