My mom is 86 and still very proud and positive. She writes down dates and notes that keep her going daily. I resist the urge to say I have heard that 30 times before because I know it will upset her and anger is something she does not forget. I know one of her children, myself included, needs to get her to the doctor though she says she is fine. I have seen here vitamin b12 is a good thing, so I will look into that ASAP. I have been there for both of my parents and live the furthest from them and drive to help out, after all they put up with my wild teenage years and stayed intact. The least I can do is show them I care. Any advice that has the best results for memory I will take to heart. I have had family members say we need to all get together and confront her memory loss, but I don't think it is a good idea. She remembers anger well and it could ruin her spirit. Do you agree with this thought? I don't see what is gained from it. Patience is a virtue. Accept the loss and save the good spirit is my belief. Thank You, Kirk.
It never accomplishes anything confronting someone as they are in denial & always will be - think if your kids said this sort of thing to you! -
Is there any way you could secretly snoop around and make sure she is paying her bills on time, eating properly, etc. While I agree a confrontation is not a good thing, I do think keeping an eye on a problem before it gets out of hand is a good idea and if the siblings can all be on the same page about it now, it will make for an easier transition in the future when things do get more serious.
I agree with others that a physical exam with a specialist would be worth the time.
Proud? Sure. Any mention of moving in with one of us or a place (AL not NH) was met with defiance and belligerence - I'm independent. I cook (no mom, little boxes in the microwave is NOT cooking). Asking for supplies that she already had (plastic wrap, trash bags, etc)
Anyway, getting her to the doctor's should be the FIRST item. Use the RA as an excuse - need to check it out and see if the doctor can help mom. Confrontation will do nothing other than irritate her, so I also recommend against that. If she checks out ok, all vitals and test results normal, just keep an eye out for changes. You say your dad had dementia, so you know what some of the signs are (not a one size fits all for sure!). Using the camera, I was the one who initially identified her "sun-downing". It started as a minimal checking of the door lock, sidelights, into kitchen and LR to turn the lights on/off, and became an hour to hour and a half marathon of the above! We finally found out what the kitchen check was when NC brother was there - the dishwasher... she was checking it over and over even when he was there.
Again, I would gently remind her that she is overdue for a health checkup and can possibly get some relief from the RA. Try the camera for remote monitoring and, if needed, the pill dispenser. Read up more (even though you've been down this road, it cannot hurt!) and help her as best you can. You can also forward this information to the siblings. Just because she forgets some things or repeats herself some is NOT a reason to confront or move her. It is a time to do some research and consider options as things progress.
I'm only 65 and I make notes to remind myself. I enter a room and forget why. It's called aging. If you make her "worry" about losing her memory, it will get worse.
Sounds like she's a smart cookie - she figured out to make notes and no one told her to do that.
I think you're right Kirk - take things one day at a time and try not to rock the boat too hard. When needed, make helpful suggestions to make life easier for Mom. She'll appreciate that more than being reminded that she is getting old and maybe a little forgetful.
Who hasn't told the same joke a hundred times, lol.
I do think she would benefit from an evaluation, it sounds like you are noticing changes in her memory and thinking. There are problems other than dementia that can cause this.
The issue seems to be how to bring up your concerns and your observations. You do want to do it in a way that is supportive and as non-confrontational as possible. Gently saying that you and others have noticed a few changes and asking her if she's noticed anything or been concerned about anything is one way to start. Encourage her to see the doctor to check for problems like thyroid problems, b12 deficiency, as others have suggested; this usually sounds less threatening than "let's get you checked for dementia."
If you float this past her and it goes very badly, then you will need to consider other options. Someone mentioned sending your concerns to the doctor and that's often a good idea, esp if the doctor has a good relationship with your mom and might be able to convince her to come in.
Otherwise, if she ever does get a diagnosis of Alzheimer's or another dementia: the Alzheimer's Association has a good position paper on the ethics of informing people. They have outlined some "Principles for a Dignified Diagnosis" in their Diagnosis Disclosure PDF, which you can find here:
http://www.alz.org/care/alzheimers-dementia-ethical-issues.asp
When I encounter a family who tells me it's best to not tell their parent a diagnosis, I usually try to get a sense from the patient herself whether or not she'd like to know this kind of thing. Some people (esp in some cultures) really would prefer that their family be the one to hear the hard truths and manage the situation. But generally we are supposed to check with patients and try to find out what are their preferences, when it comes to disclosing difficult diagnoses.
Good luck!
I work for my parents business and her business pays all of her bill's, she asked us to do this for her. She knows she is forgetful and even purchased a book to sharpen memory loss. Her vision is great and does not wear glasses, a gene I didn't inherit. Gently reminding her would be the best way to handle this, I comment on my memory to ease the tension.I will go see her next week and get her to her doctor's, it has been a long time. I stay there a few days at a time and she is the mom I have all way's known, I just need repeat myself more than before. I appreciate the input here, my father had dementia and I don't see that in her at this time.
Thank you for the valuable input here, I appreciate it!
Mother is noticeably declining--she can't do the crossword in 20 minutes, it takes all day and it's the "easy one". She can't remember who people are, or what she did yesterday, but she can tell you in detail about something that happened 70 years ago.
Sometimes she's stuck for a word or name, and I'll gently remind her, or help her if I can, and she'll say "What is wrong with me?" I just say, "Oh well, too many things to have remembered for 87 years". She has all her affairs in order, so we don't have to worry about her making crazy financial decisions. She's just going from day to day. I'll email the 3 MIA sibs from time to time and remind them to call or visit--preferably visit. They do or don't. She wasn't a stellar, loving, involved mother. My sis said yesterday "She hasn't really been a part of my life for 43 years, Why should I bother trying to have anything other than a superficial relationship with her now?" (Sis is very practical and supper Zen.) The other sibs just don't care, really. I care for her a couple days a week, doing whatever she'll allow me. When she gets under my skin, I leave.
Getting together as a family to tell her she's losing it? Why? To what end? My kids tell me in one breath I'm losing it and in the next ask me to fly 800 miles and tend their small kids for a week. Of course I am "losing it". We all are. Sheesh.
Talk together about concerns for Mom's well being in the privacy of one of your homes, but don't share it with mom. Being confronted by all the kids at one time over something is hurtful to the max.
Scroll down to the bottom of this page to the blue section. On your left you will see ALZHEIMER'S CARE, click on that. Now scroll through all the articles and pick out what you feel reflect Mom... and make copies for the rest of the family.
We all have some memory loss as we age... my boss and I are always trying to figure out someone's name :P
As mentioned above, work on getting the important legal docs in place. Get her to her doctor and outline your concerns about her memory/cognition in a brief written document you hand to the receptionist when you arrive. Or fax email it beforehand.
One hopes the doctor will suggest a workup for memory loss " to get a baseline measure" or " to rule out certain conditions".
Getting her to a doctor, in case the causes are treatable, seems more important to me than confronting her. Once you have a little more information about her condition, then you and your siblings can have a meeting and discuss what to do in the short term, and also come up with a tentative long-term plan.
After my mother began showing signs of dementia my sibs and I arranged for more and more care for her in her apartment. With things like a visiting nurse to oversee medications, cleaning, laundry, and meals on wheels I think we gave her about 4 extra years of independence. When she needed more care she moved in with my sister (essentially assisted living level care) and after that she spent the last 2 years of her life in a nursing home. By the way, she never knew that she had dementia and she was aware that she "had some memory problems." I share this to illustrate that you and your sibs can certainly do what is best for your mother now and as things progress, without ever confronting her.
I strongly recommend against a confrontation.
Then take her to the doc after she's forgotten about the POA. Then she won't revoke it when she has to face that she really does not remember things and has trouble filling in the gaps.
I expect that your sibs want a confirmation of their belief that she should begin to explore a change in her living arrangements, looking toward future mental and physical decline. It would be best for all if a negative diagnosis gave mom the impetus to make reasonable arrangements for herself, but if she stubbornly refuses to accept reality then at least the first step of documenting early dementia (or not) will have been made.
And to answer your statement about patience being a virtue, sometimes it is merely a cop out, a way to defer an unpleasant task. My own mom remained in her home after my father died and she lost her eyesight. She was resistant to change and we were busy with our own lives, but I believe that allowing that to continue was a terrible thing... I shudder to think how lonely and isolated she must have been.
Explore with me for a moment. You get her to a dr and learn that her cognitive ability is in decline. Then what? Is your mothers memory loss causing her problems with her essential life skills? Is she eating, bathing? Paying her bills? Keeping her home clean? Does she drive? Take her necessary medication? Is she living alone? Does she have help with her food shopping and preparation? Give us a bit more detail. It doesn't do much good to upset her if you don't have a plan on how to keep her safe and well cared for. If mom is able to make her own decisions you have to accept that. If she's not, you need to take action. I wish you the best in caring for your mom.