I'm currently doing an inventory (Mom is helping me & wants me to do this) of their silverware, platters, candlesticks, crystal, and Mom doesn't want to pay for a professional appraisal.
Should I just weigh each item? Or is there some other values, these are all her wedding gifts mfr'd in 1950's and solid sterling.
She wants to distribute them "equally".
Are these wonderful household items items that relatives/friends had requested in the past that they would like in the future? Or is your Mom going to distribute the items as she sees fit? My Mom has some really grand items but none of which I would really want, but I can't say no to her each time I receive an item. I slowly donate to top of the line annual rummage sales or charity run thrift stores.
The younger generation doesn't do fancy candle light dinners, using ones best china and crystal glasses. Reminds me of the BBC comedy "Keeping up Appearances" :)
When you give items to family, be sure not to split sets - my aunt was so taken with equality that all the grandkids have about 6 pieces of Gma's sterling flatware :-).
I often have people writing me to get values on things. My answer is pretty much what freqflyer said. And having done appraisals over the years, I know it can take many hours for some things... and many things are nearly impossible to evaluate. I love it when people write to ask me for free appraisals NOT. It is a lot of work if I don't have a number on the top of my head.
Forgive the digressing. I would go by instinct and sibling preferences and not worry so much about absolute numbers. If you know something is likely to be valuable, google it and see. If not, the best thing to remember is that 99% if what people own is not collectible.
As I've mentioned elsewhere on agingcare, maybe the best would be to videotape Mom going over her items, recalling their history, and recording how she herself is having a lot of indecision and worry about who should receive it. That video could be shared with every one and in itself would be so precious!
If it were me, I'd probably start with the "it doesn't matter" items; finding a sentimental or logical reason to assign them to beneficiaries. Leave the items of worth until last.
I say that because she'll get used to thinking things through from a practical standpoint. Leaving a grandchild struggling through school a $5,000 pair of ear rings makes absolutely no sense. Leaving them to an oldest daughter who's doing fairly well financially makes better sense. So she can leave them to HER daughter. (That kind of reasoning.)
Unless something has a collectible or antique value (this doesn't apply to jewelry), I'd take a "rule of thumb" value of 25% of retail. I'll also tell you that much of the "silver" sold in the 1950's and given as wedding gifts was silver plate. It's very difficult for a layperson to tell the difference.
I do know the diff between solid silver, and plated junk!
Since I am on the receiving end of some of this, I can feel their wolfish stares already (and the 2 other girls have been borlderline nasty in comments about how I have to do this fair & square).
Sentimemtally, I am more interested in some crockery and tablecloths. Earrings--can fall out!
Wish my folks had sold or would sell the jewels & pure silver, they could use the cash. What a shame to give it away, when they might have $25, 000 of items (at half value, sell at auction).
The grand piano, nobody plays, or has the space or wants to pay for shipping across the mountains. That is easy to sell.
My MIL gave away her stuff, herself. We really didn't want anything as our house, is full with our own stuff. So, I would just follow your mom's wishes and forget the nay sayers.
One of my grandmothers gave to each grand-daughter, when they got married, a silver coffee/tea set with tray... when I got the set 40 years ago I was thrilled, but over the years of cleaning that silver over and over, that thrill started to disappear. In fact, I never used that set even once, but it did look nice in the china cabinet. Last year I donated it to a scholarship rummage sale :)
My kids have more than they need. Hopefully, they just give away or sell what we have and get on with their lives.
I took very few things from my parents' home. It was more fun to watch my sisters bicker, pick and choose and haul out the boxes!
Really most often family is totally unrealistic in what their "treasures" are worth as they see "Antiques Roadshow" or the storage unit / flea market shows and think that's us. LOL!
Samara - if your things were manufactured in 1950's then they arent really silver antiques (this would be more 1850s & turn of century items) and there's a lot of 1940s, 1950s etc sterling out there. For flatware & holloware by a better manufacturer like Reed&Barton, Geo Jensen, Wallace you can do the research on line to see what pieces are retailing for. Replacements.com, Silver Queen & Ruby Lane are great sites for this. But realize that if you want to sell your pieces you may get maybe 10% - 40% of the "sale" price if in most excellent condition. There's a lot of stuff out there -like that tired Francis 1 - & younger buyers have minimal interest in this. So melt down price can often as good as its going to get. Often the shelter magazines have ads for companies that do flatware & hollowware melt downs. Good luck.
I get approached with family "treasures" at time. Most of the time it is junk. Many people don't realize how common some things are. You have a hard time giving it away, much less selling it. I don't want to hurt feelings, so I tell them to put it on eBay because they would get a better price than what I could offer.
BTW, Replacements.com is a great place to ID things, but their prices are above current market a good bit. They are the prices we wish we could get. eBay and LiveAuctioneers are available to everyone and have more realistic prices.
And, if skirmishes break out over anything, I can refer them back to the video, where grandpa specifically says he wants his Remington to go to Tommy, not Johnny, because Johnny already got the flyrod ten years ago.
But as far as trying to make up for vast differences in dollar value, I am still stumped, when it comes to the sapphires. Rifles & flyrods, those are all like in the hundreds of dollars. Jewelry with platinum, gold & precious jewels is another matter.
Or am I just falling prey to the very faults I am trying to avoid?
My mother is 84, she has never given me a single piece of jewelry. I asked for a pin that dad gave her when they first married. A costume thing, not real gold even. No. She didn't even know where is was until I mentioned it. My brother told her to write down who gets her rings, etc. and she said "I don't care".
Is there any reason I am not close to this woman?
I am hurt that there was so little consideration of my feelings and I now feel my brother will get the lion's share of the money in the end.
So, at least no matter what the value of stuff, give everyone something that makes them feel valued and not hurt.
Anyway, I think you might want to let her choose who she's gifting what and if they don't want the item it's their problem to sell it. No one shoukd feel hurt or marginalized (unless they were schmucks to the parents and caregivers).
Personally, I love real silver flatware, fine china, and so forth and I would use it and let myself feel ever so elegant.
You and her could interview 3 CERTIFIED appraisers that can show her their credentials and give you an estimate or price on appraising all items that need appraisal. She could also get referrals from these people. A lot of County Court houses have lists of Certified Appraisers - that they have checked out in regards to credentials - but it just takes calling that agency and finding out if the person still has their certification or not. When interviewing these people whether on the phone or in person - you will get a sense if they are people your mom wants to work with, or if they are out to nickel and dime you for any information they give. Since it appears your mom has REAL items of value - she is putting you in the MIDDLE of something that is not fair to YOU. The cost of the appraisal could be equal to one of her treasured items that no one really wants. Don't act like your mom's little girl - tell her as a Grown Up woman - that she is handling this in a way - that will only bring a sad and unfortunate outcome. I'm speaking from experience - I wish I had been more forthright with my mom. Since her passing death, I can attest that greed can due weird things to people. If your mom doesn't realize this - she is not being helpful or realistic. Amen.
It's not easy to try to get family on board, and then friends and neighbors want to jump in as well sometimes.
We first said the three grown kids (myself included) all in our 60s would have first choice. Then the grand kids. I did an inventory, walked around the house room by room, listed furniture, paintings, carpets and broad generalizations about china, crystal, silver (and silver plate... who knew!). I put it on a spread sheet and oddly, once they saw the whole list, both my sister and brother only wanted a very few things and nothing overlapped. We did that decision process by email.
We found a few interesting things. Paintings, a very old violin, old books. I got three prices on those and found they were worth very little.
After the service for my mom, all the kids (in our 60s) spread out the jewelry on the bed and we each took a turn picking things. There wasn't much, but it was fun to see who was interested in what. Mom had a beautiful scarf collection and we made our choices. Then we spread the remaining costume jewelry and scarves out on the bed and invited grand kids and wives to make selections. Each person got a thing if there were multiples. Mostly it was time to remember my parents. My dad had handkerchiefs! Each of the grand kids got one, with a family initial embroidered. NO dollar value, but everyone got something to remember my parents.
We invited several firms in to look at the furniture, carpets and paintings that we all thought were worth something, but we had no room in our homes (the grand kids in very small apartments). Each piece was worth very little. Seriously beautiful chairs and bedroom sets were worth almost NOTHING! I got to the point that I was happy someone would come and remove it all. Even if we got $10 for something, it was removed from the house and that was helpful.
The violin, the old books, the few pieces of jewelry ended up not being worth much at all. We went to the big auction houses and appraisers. I invited people to come in to give me prices.
They all want to make money on your things, so they offer you the very minimum imaginable. They may resell for more, but you will never see that money.
The BEST part of the process was setting the initial goal at the beginning. Then the next best, was sharing the chance for the girls to pick a scarf and the boys to pick handkerchiefs. There was an old mink that the granddaughter who lives in the coldest weather got. No one else wanted it anyway. Animal rights people in the family...
Another surprise was silver we thought was silver, upon closer inspection mostly was silver plate. The crystal was cracking and we got very little money. We took a few pieces of sliver to several local coin traders and the chose the man we liked best. The prices they offered, by weight, were essentially the same.
Keep the family in mind. Use it as an opportunity to connect and get closer. Encourage discussion within each family line. Invite all the kids to tell their parents what they would like and let the kids know the parents will decide ultimately.
Encourage everyone to express their wishes and to talk it over. As mentioned, it is a chance to remember and to get closer to each other. By being open, talking about the process, reaching agreements on how to take turns and how to make decisions, who will do the research and how, you will set a good example for your entire family.