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You need to think about your goals in life, not just a job/career. Do you want a family, to travel live somewhere else? This is the time in your life you should be doing that.

Your mother can find paid care or extra help but you can never go back and relive these years.

as long as you are there, no one will change. Start with finding a job, any job, so you get some independence. From there you can look to start your career.

Find help for your mother and visit regularly, but start your own life.
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Bob, from one of your previous posts:
Is it wrong to hope someone dies?
"Yes

I hate caregiving. It has done a lot of damage to my life. I'm almost 30 and I've had to help my mom in some capacity since I was 17 and caregiving is the only thing I've done since graduating college. I'm at the point where my disdain for helping my mom 24/7 outweighs my love for her. I cringe at times when she needs me to do something.

However, having said all of that, I DO NOT want the caregiving to end with her dying. I don't want it to end with me dying either. I want it to end with her being mobile and able to live on her own again and I can leave the nest and start my life. I don't want it to end with one or both of us dying or go through something major, tragic, or controversial. "

The way things are going, your caregiving career is tough to end with either you or mom dying. That isn't at all unusual, happens more often than not. The way I see it, you do not want to change it. For whatever reason you are content, or content enough to not want to change. And you are the only one that can change it.

What is your degree in? This is an excellent time to start a career, so many companies cannot find the employees they need. Get on with it!
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I don't know why you're worrying about what job you will be able to get 25 or 30 years from now. Who knows what the world will look like then.

You won't change anything until your mom dies and she won't change anything as long as she has her step and fetch boy. You would do better to come to terms with this life is your choice and it has some sucky consequences in your future.
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So Bob, does that give you pause, that she will be around for another 25 years?

"Recovering from cancer treatments" for 5 years?

So this is a stable and chronic condition, according to her doctors? She will need round the clock care for the rest of her life, according to her doctors?

Is she paying you for being her caregiver? Has she seen a geriatric psychiatrist to treat her depression?
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blickbob Jun 2022
She hasn't been to any sort of doctor's office since 2018 and I'm not getting paid a single penny, unless money for my birthday and Christmas count.

She hasn't seen a psychiatrist. Plus, the recovery has been ongoing since late 2018. 2017 was when she started the treatments.
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Your mom is 70. (I'm nearly 69). I will easily live to 90. That's another 20 years.

Aside from having trouble moving her legs, what illnesses does your mom have that prevent her from functioning on her own in a wheelchair?

Had a woman in my building in a wheelchair, paralyzed from polio. Went to work everyday until she died of cancer. Had hired help.

I still don't get why mom needs someone hovering 24/7.
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blickbob Jun 2022
She's recovering from cancer treatments. They ended in 2018, but she's still suffering from the effects. She hurt her ankle during the treatments and while the ankle healed, she has been too weak, and unwilling, to exercise more often and be more active. She considered PT just before Covid hit and Covid forced her to wait and she seems beyond content to keep waiting, which is detrimental to both her health and my future.

And she gets emotional whenever someone tells her to exercise.

Ultimately, my mom will likely be around another 25-30 years. Longevity runs strong in her immediate line.
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Blickbob, you sound like a stellar person who has just gotten sidetracked. No shame in that. It will take some doing but I think you can get your life back on track again. Don’t wait any longer. You are worth it! 😊
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Bob what is it worth to you? There must be something else. Do you realize that since you have never had a job that you will not have social security benefits to help you when you are older? You won't have a pension. What happens to you?

Is there a home to inherit? Anything else? What if mom and grandma need nursing home care? Nursing homes in my area are 10-12,000 a month. Any assets they may have have to be spent down before Medicaid will ever kick in. And then you need to make sure they are not giving money to anyone! You must have expenses how do you pay for them?

I think it would be helpful for you to meet with an elder law attorney to find out how best to care for mom and protect you and your future so when you need a facility there will be some assets for you to pay for that.
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You posted "I'm not "using my mom's illness to avoid looking for a job." Her illness is forcing me to abstain from job hunting. I'm not making any excuses. I'm telling it like it is."

What if you got hit by a car tomorrow?

Would your mom just die?

Nope. Social services would step in.

Just like if you left tomorrow to take a job.

Just like if you remained living with her and got a job at Denny's.

APS would step in and find her care.

You need to want a job and a life more than you fear your mother's disapproval or anger.


"To ask permission is to seek denial". Best career advice I ever got.
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blickbob Jun 2022
She's the one who needs to hear those things, not me. In all likelihood, she doesn't have a backup plan if something happens to me.
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You better pay attention to what has been suggested here. Great advice.
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'I'm not too far away from turning 30.' the short answer is 'yes, it is possible' without question
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GardenArtist Jun 2022
Yes!  It's a lot easier than when you're 50 or 60 or older.
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The chances depend on YOU, and your attitude and approach to working.  

1.   From what I read, this is a prime time to find an entry level job, as the job market seems to be  in turmoil as the US churns through changes and challenges at many levels.  

2.   Those who start at the top are more likely to have connections, platinum degrees from highly desirable colleges, and/or other supports.   Most of us don't have that.

3.    I started as a receptionist at a small real estate company, and while I was too young to understand the concept of leveraging jobs, that's what happened.  Eventually I moved into law, accidentally, but found that the legal field is fascinating, and so relevant to everyday life.   I often "temped" to get a broader exposure to law, worked at some top law firms, gained a wide breadth of exposure to various practice areas of law, and got hired when I was ready to settle down at one firm.

Eventually I moved into paralegal work, then later at another governmental agency, contract administration.   That was a long way from being a receptionist.

4.  Along the way, I went to college, but never graduated as I ran out of money and could in no way justify or afford the PhD that originally was my goal.    Nor would I borrow and go into debt; I just worked 2 jobs.   

Once I went from my day job in law to a hostess at a local restaurant.    It was an interesting contrast and helped pay for tuition.

5.    I think you need to stop using caregiving as an excuse; you need to change your attitude and stop considering it as a detriment.   Ariadnee writes from good experience:  how can you leverage this experience to get an entry level job?   

Do some research and focus more on the aspects of working you'll be learning, not the least of which is interacting with people of lessor or greater educational experience, motivation, attitude, and more qualities.

6.    Take a good look at what you're written and see how often caregiving is injected as a fallback.  

7.    If you're looking for confirmation that you won't find a decent job, you won't, w/o an attitude adjustment.

I'm being particularly blunt b/c that's the way I see the situation.  Some serious insight into your approach is required at this point.
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Ariadnee Jun 2022
Exactly this. My father, who is a lawyer, often said it was the lawyers who went to night school, held down a couple of jobs to go to school, who didn't always get the scholarships but got very, very good grades in law school that he (my father) didn't want to see in court. Cause, they were hungry, wanted to be in the field and did the work needed to be there. He considered the Harvard/Yale crew boring, pedantic and easy to run circles around in court.
Excuses are ok-to a point. But, "time waits for no one, and it doesn't wait for me"-per Mick Jagger. Time to move on from the pity party, and get going into defining yourself as a person and a fully functioning part of society. Life ain't perfect, non of us are, but get into the game, a whole 'nother world is out there for you to explore.
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I will use myself as an example.
One morning as I was changing Mom's ostomy bag, it dawned on me, that I'd far rather do that than to ever work in retail agin. After she passed, I volunteered at the Cancer Center she was treated at. Loved it. Spoke to a female reproductive oncologist surgeon who totally supported my career change, as did many other people I spoke to there.
I enrolled in Community College's medical assistant program-2 years, and, most importantly recognized by the American Medical Association-not a program in a strip mall setting. My skills, training are recognized and respected by the AMA. Tuition is not cheap-but worth every penny.
In a few months from graduating, I had a very good job in the field. One surgeon said I was the best MA they ever hired. In six months from graduation, I'd earned back all that was spent on my career change/education. I was not young when this happened, but, didn't stop me-I had to have a better way of making a living.
So, buckle up Buttercup, time to take charge of yourself, of getting in to the regular world and get started on to a better life. With all the caregiving you have done, why not volunteer at a senior center? See where it takes you.
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GardenArtist Jun 2022
Ariadnee, excellent advice, and a good example of leveraging your unpaid experience into a job.
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I personally agree that not everyone is suited to balancing work & study. No shame or judgement. To realise how you learn & operate in the world is SMART.

To see you need a little help, to get some therapy or a life coach to look at *life stuff* & work out want you really want & how to plot a course there.. also smart.

I am sorry your Mother is ill. There may be not a lot you can change about that.

But I do hope you tend to your own life plans - so you can nurture then to spring to life very soon.
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Okay, here's the deal. You're being a bit soft on yourself...in college you couldn't work and go to school...too hard; once graduated you were depressed so you didn't apply yourself looking for a job. You sort of put yourself in an unhireable position and, perhaps I'm wrong, but your using mom's illness to avoid looking for a job. Are your sister and your dad not around? Start sending out resumes now. Today if possible. Take a job, any job. It's the only way to do it. Just because you have a degree doesn't mean a lot actually, since you've been cloistered. Once you have a job, then you'll have to backtrack and find ways to get your mother the assistance she needs to remain in the home. I'm sorry, but she will have to accept a hired caregiver or accept going into a facility. While it's all well and good to "want to" help your mother, do you realize that once she passes you will be homeless? (I watched a friend do the exact same thing you are doing now. It did not have a great outcome). I think you've written about the situation now at least three other times and the answers have generally been the same for most of us. Find a job and start working on your life. Stop making excuses and just do it. (Sorry not sorry for the tough talk).
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blickbob Jun 2022
I'm not "using my mom's illness to avoid looking for a job." Her illness is forcing me to abstain from job hunting. I'm not making any excuses. I'm telling it like it is.
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You need to look out for yourself.

Start getting your ducks in a row now..it is part of the caregiving. Who has POA? Are all those things in place? Are you caregiver for mom , because she doesn’t have funds for an AL ? Or nursing home? Regardless steps should be taken to prepare for this.
call your county office of aged and disabilities office for insight.

Timeline .. your mom in mid fifties? As another poster sited , you could be still in this roll when your fifty.. then what ? See, you have the keys to your future. You have to take the steps to unlock it.
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What did you graduate in?

I am quite sure that you won't agree, but your "failure to launch" if I may so put it has nothing whatever to do with your mother's ill health. Who would have driven her to chemo if you'd been working, indeed. Good heavens, what do you think happens to all the patients who don't have unemployed sons on hand to take them? - they find a way. Your mother would have found a way.

People yelling at you or nagging you on a semi-regular basis are not going to provide you with motivation. Finding something you want to do will. What do you, or failing that what did you, want to do?
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Is she 65 yet? Does she have Medicare? Is she on SSDI? More info would be helpful.

My husband and I have run a branding/marketeing firm for 38 yrs and have hired many people for many differing positions. We never "required" a degree and could overlook lack of experience, the candidates just had to have good hygiene, good people skills, and prove that they were self-governing on the job and creative problem solvers.

IMHO if you can allow yourself to be flexible but have a realist end-goal in sight, you can do much in life. This is the hottest job market I can ever remember, so you should be able to get a full-time job that would give you benefits so that at least you can get your independence established. Before starting our business, my husband and I worked all sorts of jobs that were unrelated to what we do now. But patience and willingness to work hard are very important, not necessarily the degree (...and what is your degree in? ).

To be honest your post sounds a little Eeore-ish. Perhaps you have untreated depression? Maybe you've not been able to get regular exercise? Exercising clears the mind and helps release endorphins, and you just feel better and sleep better.

Many things can be out of one's control but you can control how you respond to it. If you are unwilling to resign from caregiving your mother, maybe consider contacting a temp agency to see what WFH positions there may be: many Customer Service Reps receive those calls at their home and the company provides them with a laptop and trains them. I know because my relative did this.

You obviously love your mom a lot to have sacrificed so much to help her. But enough is enough and you need to launch your own life now. I think you are listening to exterior voices who are "catastrophizing" you leaving her to do your own life. Please consider getting social services involved to see what in-home help she qualifies for from the county so you can slow extricate yourself. You don't need to tell her this is your hope and plan. You don't need to tell any relative.

Years ago I read a book called "Boundaries" by Townsend and Cloud. I think it would help you. That, or working with a therapist so that you can get an objective viewpoint of where to draw lines and how to maintain boundaries. You are the captain of your own destiny. Once you internalize this truth and stop allowing exterior forces to control your situation you'll see just how many good options you actually have. It will be life-changing.
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blickbob Jun 2022
She's 70.
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It sounds to me that there are plenty of excuses for not working. But, you have a degree and have never used it. The longer you wait the harder it will be. It almost sounds codependent. Find a therapist to help you.

Why is a nursing home not an option? Sure mom may refuse to.go. You need to get on with your life!
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Beatty Jun 2022
"It almost sounds codependent".

Sometimes it's time to look life in the eye. SEE where you are.. maybe stuck... Maybe being stuck was meant to be for while. Even a long while.

Better than going backwards!

Not staying stuck forever is the thing. Move FORWARD when ready.
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Since your caregiving won't end until your mother dies you may not actually enter the work force for another 20 years.

That would make you 50 years old with no work history.

I suppose you would be a perfect candidate to work in a nursing home with all your experience.

How sad that your entire existence has been all about your selfish and pathetic mother.

Getting a job when your caregiving duties end is the least of your problems.
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