What can you do when the parent you care for has way too much stuff in their home?

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What can you do when the parent you care for has way too much stuff in their home?

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My mom has lived in the house she's in since 1962. It is a 5 bedroom 2 bath house, and it is over flowing with stuff. As time goes by, she is not physically able to do much of anything, and she will watch me sometimes, because she thinks that I might do something with some of her things. I am wanting to possibly get someone to come into her home for a caregiver for her, but I am concerned that because of the house being so cluttered, that they may not be able to help. I am at my wits end, and I don't know what I can do.

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A friend was in a similar position but the clutter was hedging into hoarding territory. A sibling meeting was held & someone took Mother out for a long lunch. The rest moved stuff into clearly labelled boxes into the garage.

Yes it hit the fan when Mother returned but the deed was done. They stressed they had not thrown anything away (well... maybe a few dirty or damaged things). It was all there - just now in the garage. Now they could spring clean properly! Weren't the freshly mopped floors lovely!

There were two issues: control & inability. Didn't want to lose control of her stuff but inability to decide what to do, where to put it, what to throw out. Possibly the beginnings of cognitive decline.

The Mother swore she would move it all back into the house.... did she? Nope. Never opened a single box.

Just an idea..

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Start getting rid of things on the down-low. Your mother doesn't have to know or see what you're doing. I had a homecare client who's house was ridiculously hoarded with plain old junk and crap. She would throw away nothing and because of her dementia, didn't even know what she had. Her family asked me to just clean up any way I could. I literally filled garbage bags with stuff and dropped them out of the bedroom window to be thrown away in a dumpster so she wouldn't see anything exiting the house. This is the way to do it. Just start throwing stuff away but don't let her see what you're doing.

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My mom (just last week) bravely told me she doesn't want me in her apartment anymore and definitely to STOP cleaning for her. She says her place doesn't get dirty (???) and there's no need to dust all the time. Said I just threw away EVERYTHING and she needed her things around her to feel 'safe and loved'.

Fine by me, just being in her place makes me antsy and angry. She adores the junk she won at BINGO yet doesn't even have a picture of my daddy hanging up. I'm fine with never cleaning again.

About 6 years ago she was fascinated by the KonMari cleaning (which is far too brutal for a hoarder) and I worked 3 days in her place, wound up with a raging migraine, and we actually threw away one very small bag of trash. I had bought 10 large plastic bins, which we filled to the brim with paperwork and then put it in the crawlspace--she simply couldn't let anything go. It was literally painful.

Her speaking to me about never touching anything in her packed apartment was probably very hard for her, I respect that. Her piles of puzzles and books which she wants to donate to the Sr Center (she wants the social kudos that come with physically donating these things) are now toppling over--I doubt the Sr Center will open for over a year more. It's the grime and the ropes of dust hanging from the light fixtures and the piles and piles of 'junk' that get to me.

We're done with therapeutic fibs, tidying while she's out (b/c she NEVER GOES OUT)....it is what it is.

Her concept of tidy is not mine. I worry a little about the filthy birdcage that never gets cleaned, and the constant cough that breathing bird feathers and dander off of them--and the DUST. But, it is her home and I'm quite frankly just so tired of dealing with it.

Most people simply do what I do: give up on helping and just know that when your LO passes, a giant yard sale and subsequent trip to GoodWill will take care of it.

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I have lived with my parents for a bit over a year. I’m signing a lease for my own apt nearby this week. I can’t wait!! They generously had cleaned out ONE drawer of a dresser when I came back to the states from an overseas job—for the sole purpose of caregiving (my sister guilt-tripped me into them needing me to live with them—what was I thinking??). We FINALLY convinced them to let me pack up some things and put it in my storage unit so I could move my own belongings. I had been told I could have 2 bedrooms. There is only 1 bath and I keep all my own toiletries in my bedroom. I ended up with a bedroom and part of a second room.

it was a nightmare to get either of them to let my sister and I help clear out. My moms W-2 forms 1955...just to start! Craft crap from church programs she “might” need. (She has 16 great grandchildren who could use it). 😳🙄🙄🙄

I can’t clean—I don’t do it right (never could). She will let the neighbor come in to help clean—SHE is good. They pay her ...but not me!! (Before I returned from overseas we had eldercare come to assist..they didn’t do anything to her liking and my dad didn’t like paying! (But it was fine for me to give up a paying job with paid insurance for US and overseas...to come back and do the eldercare)

I was “sneak cleaning” before she and dad woke up. I was using a swifter mop in the kitchen. My dad spotted the used pad in the trash and pointed out to my mom...showing her how much dirt I had gotten! He was trying to say I “did something”. She took it as a insult and had the “real” mop and bucket out AND scrub brushes!!).

An eldercare contract was suggested by my sister so I could be compensated for some of the wages I had given up. My dad actually said he “gave me” room and board and I don’t do as much as the eldercare lady! 😳🙄.

I’m done. I will come and help prep dinner and drive to appointments...but I won’t live there. I won’t do anything I am not trained to do. They have the money and can hire someone. The mental/emotional stress is not worth it!

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Approach it like "Mom wouldn't it be nice to let some of this stuff go. As u age less is best".

My Mom had a 4 bedroom farmhouse. She didn't use the upstairs so we started there. I sat her down and had two piles, keep and throw out/give away. After we went thru that I then took the keep pile and thru it with her again. The Facebook online yardsales are a good way to make some money.

Since cleaning out Moms I have done some of my own. If I haven't used it in the last 20 years or so I got rid of it. Mostly donated to Church yardsales and Thrift shops.

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JoAnn29, good for you in cleaning out your own stuff too. I try to do that, after cleaning out 4 loved ones houses, I swore my kids wouldn't have that much mess when my time came. I throw out something every week,

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I've been w/my parent for about 5 yrs now and still don't have a closet!!! LOL. Funny but not funny. I put a rack in the bedroom to put my clothes. Tried cleaning out closets several times and she liked it all.

Now when she says she doesn't like an article of clothing or it doesn't fit just right, not comfortable, I move it to a shopping bag. When I have to pick up groceries, I move the clothes out as I leave. I even had a couple of garage sales because she liked the idea of making a little money off her stuff. Too much work for the little bit of money, but it got some stuff out.

For starters, with Christmas coming up, tell all the relatives no junk stuff to set around the house. Ask for doordash delivery type food gift cards or Walmart grocery cards. My mom can still identify things that so and so gave her and she just can't part with it. You know what kind of clothes she wears, what she likes/doesn't like, so tell them gift card and you'll pick it up. (I got tired of doing all the clothing exchanges). Also ask for hair salon gift cards (preferably a local person that will come to the house). In home nail salon person who will do nails. Or ask for specific items with item number and where it can be bought (certain type of underwear with item number, etc).

Maybe start in one room and tell her you'd like to redo it. Bedspreads, curtains, the works and point out little things that create clutter. She might be interested in helping with the revamp and let go of some things. Point out things first that didn't come to her as a gift - those might be easier to let go of. Bathroom cabinets can be decluttered without being obvious. Kitchen, too. (Except my mom can remember some little kitchen doo-dad and tell me exactly where it is!)

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That's a good idea bringing stuff out in the shopping bags for the store. Very clever.

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I had some luck with clear plastic bins and bags. I was able to organize the clutter and as long as they could still see their belongings, they seemed to be somewhat comfortable with the system. They were less likely to unpack the bins looking for something. Then, after some time, I was able to move the bins and bags to an area where they weren't seen every day. And from there, we were able to slowly, slowly remove bins and bags from the home.

We didn't try to clear the whole house. We cleared the areas a caregiver would need to access- exits and entrances, the kitchen, the bathroom and a sleeping/sitting area.

What we did find was that cleared areas (like the kitchen table) became cluttered again fairly quickly. So it didn't really solve the problem. Being surrounded by "stuff" seemed to provide them with some kind of comfort.

By the time we moved the last resident to memory care, we needed three dumpsters to clear the junk out of the house. It was sad.

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My aunt had this problem to the point where it was dangerous for her and would have been dangerous or impossible for any first responder who had to go into her apartment with a gurney. The landlord told her she had to clear out some of the clutter or she'd be evicted. It's different with a private house, but just as dangerous, especially if there are piles. It can also be a health hazard if the piles are nesting places for vermin. Try to make paths and get rid of stuff that she won't miss (old magazines, old bills, things that don't work...). Do it when she's not there if you can. If she will notice, tell her that the place is not up to health codes and you have to make space for first responders to get to her bedroom and places where she might be. Would she feel better to have a garage sale for the items she is no longer using? Or donate them? My husband's sister made a good deal of money with garage sales when she cleaned out her garage. And she got to speak with the neighbors.

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See my post above. I am antisocial to the point of paranoia, I do not even know my neighbors' names, have lived here 6 years. I know the name of the guy next door's cat, but not his or his wife. Eventually maybe I will donate things, maybe see if there is interest from a museum or historical society in the photos, but a yard sale would be out of the question for me. Too many people, strangers. I have a handful of friends other than my daughters. One just passed. Another, younger, moved to Florida to help her grandma. The remaining half dozen or so I see maybe a couple of times in a month....

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The sad thing what is valuable to you isn't to others. I hope I learned from seeing and observing, I have to declutter and get rid of things to make my life easier as I age. Also to make it easier for those when I am gone. I have provided eldercare to a few and see it all the time. I plan on giving away things to those that will appreciate it and the other stuff to Sally or Goodwill, etc. It actually comes down to the choice if you want to stay in your home as long as possible you have to make it livable as you age. Less complications. No trip hazards, less things to look after, you really don't need much. Less is more in everything, dishes, glasses, towel, bedding, you only need what you use and a few extras. The days of entertaining large family get together is gone, instead you go to their house and they do the work. Learn computers and technology so you can get goods and services delivered, Learn to use uber with your phone, etc. It can be fun and free you to enjoy your time alone and with family and friends. It will keep you independence much longer with less confusion. Maybe you can explain it to your Mom.

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I cleaned out my own home of 35 years and put what I wanted in storage before taking an overseas job. I came back to the states to caregive for my 83 year old parents who have things hoarded/packed away—items from the 1950’s! Junk no one will ever want. My mother thinks it is the job of children AFTER her death to clean out (of course she did NOT do so for her parents!! Her sisters did it all). I told her I did the cleaning out of my own home because I didn’t want to burden my children.

While attempting to help de-clutter I was constantly told “you don’t understand”. “It is sooo hard to go through all this change”. (Me moving in)

I lost my husband in my 50’s...after many years of his poor health. I went through a year of cancer treatment...and sold my home two years ago.

She still has her husband and her home. She has never had any major health incident. Any time my dad has been ill she had the help of her children.

I did convince her to let me out a few things in my storage unit so I could move in some of my own personal furniture.

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How about telling her a therapeutic fib? Start getting rid of the obvious junk/trash & tell her you’re taking it to storage for safe keeping. Take things you know she’ll never miss. I don’t think we should rush to assume your mother is a mentally ill hoarder-she’s been in her home for 55 years. When we bought our home, the seller was a woman who had lived there about 40 years and she was far from a hoarder but the house was packed with 40 years worth of stuff. Every room has built in cabinets & lots of closets and they were stuffed! She had to “rent” the house back from us for 2 weeks because she needed extra time to get everything packed up.

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Hi VickiLouise

For some unknown reason hoarding is a problem with elders. You are not alone in having to deal with this. There are many threads on Aging Care discussing it. Here is one recently updated article that you might find helpful.
https://www.agingcare.com/articles/hoarding-behavior-becomes-more-severe-with-age-146409.htm

If you do a search for hoarding on this site, you will find many many more threads and articles.

In this article it is suggested that the caregiver seek counseling or support as it is very difficult to be the caregiver of a hoarder.

I’m glad you came to AgingCare and I’m sorry you have this to deal with.

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I am 86 and I was born in 1934 at the end of the great Depression then WWII. Most people my age and older were marked in some way by that time. Possessions and food were hard to come by, you saved everything because you might not be able to purchase it again. During the Depression you couldn't afford food. During the war; Rubber bands? Forget it. Hair pins? Sorry, war effort. Gasoline, tires, meat, sugar, and most everthing else rationed. You had a ration book, if you used all your tickets up, too bad. My huband said his mother would purchase meat on a Friday evening because the local butcher was usually drunk and forgot to ask for the ration tickets. Most people got over it. Some people never felt safe enough to dispose of possessions. For my mother and Grandmother, it was food. Both went hungry and it marked them forever. I knew a lady from the Philippines who fed 15 kids from the garbage pails of the Japanese, during the Japanese Occupation. She had quite a story. That experience marked her in this way. Every seed she got a hold of was planted. Her daughter was always going out in the yard when Dominga wasn't there and pulled up orange, apple, pear, corn, and every other kind of seedlings.

I wish I had an answer for the hoarding, or how to make people feel safe, but I don't. Truth is, they are not safe.

What can you do when the parent you care for has way too much stuff in their home?

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