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The facility has not asked him to leave but they have sent him to the ER once because they could not calm him down. this is their policy. And I have heard from my support group if that happens too many times they will just ask them not to bring him back. I did wait 3 weeks before visiting. Then they changed his meds and ask that I wait again. HIs daughter and I are just frustrated.
CBD Gummies have provided amazing relief for my husband who was suffering terrible anxiety and delusions that were torture. He is not sedated or zoned out but can relax and enjoy his time. We can tell when it is time for another as he starts worrying about where his things are or where he is. It takes about 20 min. for the relief to come. It was a challenge for his Dr. to figure out how to prescribe it for the facility. We're so grateful for the comfort. He is now on a schedule of 1 at 8 am, 1 at 12pm, 2 at 2:00, 2 at 4:00, 2 at 6:00, 2 at 8:00pm. He has a PRN order if he needs more in the evening for sundowning. This sees to be working for now but will probably need adjustment down the line. This is a very large strong man - each person will need to discover their own amounts and schedule
My father’s hospice gave him cbd. I can’t say if it worked as dad was not really communicative.
Other products may also relax him. Hemp based products like delta-8-thc are federally legal, and all states except Idaho allow them to be shipped from suppliers in other states. They’re often found in convenience stores.
I agree with other responders who asked if he is on meds for anxiety and agitation. If not, this should now be considered as people with dementia are literally, biologically and cognitively not able to bring their minds to a place of acceptance, contentment and peace.
When you do eventually do visit, try coordinating it with some event in the facility and leave his presence before the event ends, letting the staff know that you will be scooting out.
If he continues to ask you to get him out, tell him that his doctor is the one who decides that. Then change the topic or leave.
We were told when my BIL went into a memory care nursing home not to visit for 3 weeks because that is when they are getting him used to the place. So of his family listened and some didn't. He had a harder time with the family that didn't listen.
You need to do what they ask. You seem to be a trigger. Does he get agitated when others visit? I hope you have not been spending all day with him every day. If so, you are not allowing him to adjust to staff caring for his needs. My daughter, RN in a NH, says visit but you don't have to be there every day or for long periods of time. People who suffer from a Dementia have no conception of time. Days run into each other. Because of short-term memory loss, they can forget 5 min after you left that you were there. A member of this forum told the story of, lets say their Mom, talking to her son on the phone. When she hung the phone up, someone asked how son was doing, she said "I have not heard from him in weeks".
Take a few days for yourself. He is safe and cared for. Keep your visits short and as suggested maybe right before dinner so he is distracted when u leave. Never say you are going home. My daughter always told my Mom she was going to work. The word home was never mentioned.
Listen to what they are telling you, being a helicopter LO is counterproductive. He needs to acclimate to his new surrounding and you are hindering the process.
As for asking him to leave you will then need to find a new facility for him, it is just that simple.
That is why most if not all memory care facilities ask family members to stay away for at least 2 weeks to allow their loved one to adjust to their new surroundings and the people caring for them. I'm guessing that you didn't heed their advice and are now reaping the consequences huh? So I guess now you can either not visit so often or make sure that you have your loved one involved in an activity before you sneak out, to keep his agitation down.
When you visit try some of these 1. Before you leave get him involved in an activity or a meal. Once he is involved quietly get up and leave. Don't say anything to him, just go. 2. Try to keep the visits short and as difficult as it is don't cry or show that you are upset or sad. He may be picking up on your emotions. 3. Agitation is common with dementia so medications are commonly used. But I would think in 7 weeks they should have his medications "fine tuned" so that he should not be getting agitated. And if the medications are not "fine tuned" I would ask to talk to the doctor to determine what is going on. (You do say in your profile ..and thank you for adding that information.. that your husband has Alzheimer's medicating for agitation should be straightforward, if he had Parkinson's and Lewy bodies that can be a little trickier to find a medication that will help with the agitation.,)
I am confused about your question...is the facility asking you to find another place for your husband?
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Other products may also relax him. Hemp based products like delta-8-thc are federally legal, and all states except Idaho allow them to be shipped from suppliers in other states. They’re often found in convenience stores.
When you do eventually do visit, try coordinating it with some event in the facility and leave his presence before the event ends, letting the staff know that you will be scooting out.
If he continues to ask you to get him out, tell him that his doctor is the one who decides that. Then change the topic or leave.
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Take a few days for yourself. He is safe and cared for. Keep your visits short and as suggested maybe right before dinner so he is distracted when u leave. Never say you are going home. My daughter always told my Mom she was going to work. The word home was never mentioned.
As for asking him to leave you will then need to find a new facility for him, it is just that simple.
I'm guessing that you didn't heed their advice and are now reaping the consequences huh?
So I guess now you can either not visit so often or make sure that you have your loved one involved in an activity before you sneak out, to keep his agitation down.
1. Before you leave get him involved in an activity or a meal. Once he is involved quietly get up and leave. Don't say anything to him, just go.
2. Try to keep the visits short and as difficult as it is don't cry or show that you are upset or sad. He may be picking up on your emotions.
3. Agitation is common with dementia so medications are commonly used. But I would think in 7 weeks they should have his medications "fine tuned" so that he should not be getting agitated. And if the medications are not "fine tuned" I would ask to talk to the doctor to determine what is going on.
(You do say in your profile ..and thank you for adding that information.. that your husband has Alzheimer's medicating for agitation should be straightforward, if he had Parkinson's and Lewy bodies that can be a little trickier to find a medication that will help with the agitation.,)
I am confused about your question...is the facility asking you to find another place for your husband?