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Medicare is health insurance so it won't do anything much for an 87 yo with dementia. She can sell her home and use the proceeds to pay for Memory Care Assisted Living.
Your profile name says "neighbor"... are you this woman's neighbor?
The best thing you can do is to report her to APS and get her on their radar as a vulnerable adult. If this woman truly has no family and no PoA then she will need a legal guardian in order to get her into a facility in order to protect her, house her, feed her and give her any medical care she needs.
If you do contact APS and they don't come out right away, and if you are worried about her safety (like if she leaves pots on lit burners, drives, wanders outside at night) then call 911 and tell them there's something wrong with her (don't mention dementia since this isn't considered a medical emergency). Go with her to the ER and make sure the discharge people know she is an "unsafe discharge" so they retain her. Then ask to talk to a social worker and explain that you are not her caregiver, not wish to be, and that she has no family. They will start the process of transitioning her directly into a care facility and recommending her case to a judge who will assign a guardian. That's as much as you can do.
People don't seem to understand Medicare is health insurance for hospitalization and medical treatment only. Medicare is awesome, yet doesn't pay for "long term care" (Assisted Living, Memory Care, SNF) whatsoever. These "facilities" are very expensive, hence those in their 50s better be making plans for their Long Term Care 10-20 years ahead! Twenty years will fly by, then what generally happens is their adult children get saddled with their parent's long term care issues (and costs).
All working Americans (prior to turning 65) need to realize Medicare is not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Their own aging parents are well aware of the end of life issues by age 40-50, yet refuse to make solid estate plans, set up Trusts, do Wills or similar "depressing" planning ahead of time. They selfishly assume they can force themselves on their adult children as their solution.
It burns me up to see so many stubborn elders save money for "old age" yet refuse to use it! Their adult kids have been on their own for decades, have their own families and are still working. Why should they get stuck with stubborn parents and their long term care expenses?
Ask yourself...did your parents ever work for anyone for FREE? Did they sacrifice their lives (and savings) for their own elderly parents? Did they use their own savings to fund their own elderly parent's long term care costs? PLAN AHEAD!
One or two generations ago, most people didn't live as long as they often do now so long-term care wasn't as much of an issue. My spouse (now 94) and I (87) did our best to plan and save (on modest salaries from employment in the nonprofit healthcare and human services sector). We bought long-term care insurance, for which the premiums are now astronomical, and have tried to maximize our years of independent living. We still live on our own with some hired outside assistance. For a variety of reasons neither of us anticipated living much beyond the age of 80. But. . . fortunately or unfortunately, here we are.
You need to call APS concerning a vulnerable woman. If she has no family, they should take over and the State will become her guardian. She will be placed, probably, in LTC.
I know its hard, but don't get involved anymore than you need to. Help but don't allow her to depend on you. If she happens to get hospitalized you tell the Social worker she needs 24/7 care and it would be an unsafe discharge to send her home because there is no family to care for her.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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Best of luck!
The best thing you can do is to report her to APS and get her on their radar as a vulnerable adult. If this woman truly has no family and no PoA then she will need a legal guardian in order to get her into a facility in order to protect her, house her, feed her and give her any medical care she needs.
If you do contact APS and they don't come out right away, and if you are worried about her safety (like if she leaves pots on lit burners, drives, wanders outside at night) then call 911 and tell them there's something wrong with her (don't mention dementia since this isn't considered a medical emergency). Go with her to the ER and make sure the discharge people know she is an "unsafe discharge" so they retain her. Then ask to talk to a social worker and explain that you are not her caregiver, not wish to be, and that she has no family. They will start the process of transitioning her directly into a care facility and recommending her case to a judge who will assign a guardian. That's as much as you can do.
People don't seem to understand Medicare is health insurance for hospitalization and medical treatment only. Medicare is awesome, yet doesn't pay for "long term care" (Assisted Living, Memory Care, SNF) whatsoever. These "facilities" are very expensive, hence those in their 50s better be making plans for their Long Term Care 10-20 years ahead! Twenty years will fly by, then what generally happens is their adult children get saddled with their parent's long term care issues (and costs).
All working Americans (prior to turning 65) need to realize Medicare is not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Their own aging parents are well aware of the end of life issues by age 40-50, yet refuse to make solid estate plans, set up Trusts, do Wills or similar "depressing" planning ahead of time. They selfishly assume they can force themselves on their adult children as their solution.
It burns me up to see so many stubborn elders save money for "old age" yet refuse to use it! Their adult kids have been on their own for decades, have their own families and are still working. Why should they get stuck with stubborn parents and their long term care expenses?
Ask yourself...did your parents ever work for anyone for FREE? Did they sacrifice their lives (and savings) for their own elderly parents? Did they use their own savings to fund their own elderly parent's long term care costs?
PLAN AHEAD!
I know its hard, but don't get involved anymore than you need to. Help but don't allow her to depend on you. If she happens to get hospitalized you tell the Social worker she needs 24/7 care and it would be an unsafe discharge to send her home because there is no family to care for her.