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My father in law lives around 30 minutes from me. Husband was his full time carer and dealt with everything but is now in prison and there is nobody else to care for him. I initially contacted social services to get him put into a nursing home but they have said he doesn't fit the criteria and he has no funds to pay for it himself. He has had a stroke, in a wheelchair, has speech issues and dementia. Carers come in 3 times a day and deal with personal care and meals however, they aren't very good. There has been an issue with his bank which means everytime I need to buy anything for him (electric, gas, food etc) I have to drive 40 minutes to the bank, provide receipts and then it takes about an hour for them to release funds. I am so so so sick of caring. Before, we had never really spoke two words to each other. I work 12 hour shifts and seem to spend my days off sorting out appointments, going to bank, general things that pop up that weren't planned for and I am so sick and tired of it. Social work aren't interested and barely return my calls, I've already made a complaint and it's not achieved anything. Any advice on how to go forward? I can't just leave him to it as he would freeze and end up starving as he doesn't have the capacity to be able to sort this stuff out. Any advice? All I want is a day off where I can do whatever I want rather than running around all day to get home late and still have my own life to deal with

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If your FIL has no funds to pay for a nursing home, then he needs to apply for Medicaid. It certainly sounds like someone in his condition would qualify for care in a nursing facility and Medicaid.
Have you tried contacting some facilities in your area and then let their social worker(not social services)walk you through the process? They can even help you with the Medicaid process.
You can also call APS(Adult Protective Services)and report a vulnerable adult living by themselves and they will come out and do an assessment on him and take things from there.
I wish you well in getting your life back and your FIL the help that he needs.

And if the facility social workers aren't returning your calls, perhaps it's time to make an in person visit to the facility your choice and talk to them face to face.
However if no one is your FIL's POA, then you may have a hard time getting him placed unless he is willing to go on his own.
That is where APS would come in handy, as they can take over his care and he can become a ward of the state.
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olddude Oct 2023
I would just call APS and then bail. He will become the state's problem, whether they like it or not. After that, he is not your problem.

And whoever you talked to at social services is an idiot. They were just trying to get rid of you.
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If he's truly left freezing and starving you can call your local police detachment and ask for a wellness check, that should light a fire under someone's azz. But I have to ask - Where is your partner in all this, he's their father after all and managing his care should not be your responsibility.
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lealonnie1 Oct 2023
He's in prison. "Husband was his full time carer and dealt with everything but is now in prison and there is nobody else to care for him."
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Who pays for his aides? If him, then he can afford LTC. And when his money runs out, he can go on Medicaid.

Call APS and tell them you can no longer help him. Could they please evaluate him for LTC and if found he is 24/7 care the State will need to take over because you no longer can do it.
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I did all my daddys stuff via online. I was also his POA.
Once I got control of stuff online its easy. An hour or less a month and bills are paid.
Now about your FIL who is his POA?
Is he easy to get along with?
Does he have memory problems?
Does he have property?
As stated in another post you may need to enlist the caregiving home to assist you with paperwork. If he has assets then that will be used first then on to Medicaid.
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Catmama1234 Oct 2023
He doesn't have POA in place and now that he has dementia he isn't able to appoint anyone. He doesn't really say anything to be honest in all the years I've known him he has only ever said yes, no, okay and curse words. He doesn't have any property or anything of value
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I am sorry that you are in this position.

I certainly understand that you are exhausted and need to go back to living your own life.

This current situation places a heavy burden on you and isn’t fair to you. You shouldn’t be in a position where you have the responsibility of overseeing your father in law’s needs.

Call Council on Aging in his area. Set up a consultation with them to do as assessment of his needs.

Tell Council on Aging what your situation is and discuss any concerns that you have regarding his future care.

Ask about any resources that could be utilized to help with his future care. Tell them explicitly that you are not available to assist in his care.

Inquire about what needs to be done for him to qualify for Medicaid, so that he can enter a facility.

I am sorry that his caregivers aren’t satisfactory. What issues are you having with them? Can this situation be addressed and resolved?

Wishing you peace as you move towards resuming your life.
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ER dump is now the only course, if you have already tried APS and they will provide nothing.
Take him to the ER or have him tranported there with--to be frank--some lie or another. Once in tell Social Services that his son, who was his caregiver, is in prison and there is no one to care for him. You are not POA. Let them know you WILL NOT be POA and you will not participate in his discharge planning.

They will have to find placement for him or discharge him with no one; that would consitute an "unsafe discharge".
The state has taken over care of his son. Now time for them to take on Dad. This is NOT your problem unless you make it so.
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lealonnie1 Oct 2023
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OP, you have given very little information about ages. Is FIL under 65? That may be a reason why APS haven’t helped, and social services say he doesn’t ‘fit the criterea’. Where do the ‘carers three times a day’ come from – what agency? Most relevant agencies have social workers who should be able to help. You need to get out of this, and some of the answers may already have helped, but more information could explain why it’s being so difficult.
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Catmama1234 Oct 2023
Hi he is 67 currently and it is a local care company that is sub contracted for the council so the council pays them to care for him. Social workers have all been useless :(
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I had a friend who was single. He never married, claiming that he never found that special connection during his lifetime.

Anyway, sadly he had cancer that progressed to an advanced stage. Even though he was proactive in treating it, there wasn’t much hope that he would survive.

He named a couple of his close friends as his emergency contacts. Like you, we helped out but it is hard to continue to help out on a regular basis.

He also asked us if we were interested in being his POA.

We told him that we didn’t want the responsibility of being his POA and that he was not going to be able to live with any of us and would have to go into a facility.

We realized that he was coping with a lot, his mortality, the state intervening, entering a facility, etc. He was a bit anxious at first, but he accepted his fate. He became satisfied with the outcome and was grateful to be placed.

It’s a lot to ask someone to do everything that is needed to care for someone who is seriously ill.

The state took over and found a suitable facility for him to live out the remainder of his life. We went to visit him as often as possible.

You do not have to accept any responsibility for his care. You deserve to live your life.
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OP, if FIL is 67 (the retirement age here, and it’s creeping up regularly), perhaps you saw social workers when his age was too low to qualify? When will your husband be free, and will he come back to resume care? Is there any chance of an earlier release if that’s what he will be doing? Day release, if the locations are close? (I have no idea how you would inquire about that, but there should be a way)

If the care company is sub-contracted to your local council, someone in the council is in charge of it, and might be worth talking to. Three visits a day for personal care and meals might be able to be varied to include one full day, which could give you the day off you crave?
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I would get in touch with a nursing home that accepts medicaid and get that ball rolling.
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