My dad, 67, moved in with me about 3 years ago following a divorce. Initially things were ok, he retired from full time work last year and I bought my first house shortly after and we moved home, he came with me. Since we've moved, he has become incredibly dependant on alcohol, mainly whiskey, he can drink an entire bottle over 2 evenings. I've been in a relationship for about 9 months now and my partner moved in with us this year, they get on well. At Christmas my partner proposed to me, he asked my dad prior to asking me, as he felt this was the respectful thing to do. When he asked my dad my dad's reply was "as long as you know what you're getting yourself into". Neither myself nor my fiancé know what he meant by this comment. After speaking to my dad, he proposed. We then went out to our local pub, my dad was already there. When I showed my dad the ring, he didn't congratulate me, show any emotion, instead, he said "well he could of f***ing asked me first". This was in front of our friends, he then got up and walked away from the table where we were sitting. Before Xmas I asked him to not get drunk as it was out first Xmas in the new house. He didn't listen, he went out on Xmas eve, didn't get home until gone 1am. My fiancé woke in the morning to find food all over the kitchen floor and the front door wide open, please bare in mind this was Xmas eve so the house was full of presents etc. We woke him Xmas day morning for the usual present opening etc, all he kept saying was "come on, hurry up, I want to go to the pub". He then left and did exactly that, once he had opened his presents. He knew I was cooking dinner, he wasn't home in time so I ended up having to call him 3 times, he eventually came home, completely drunk. He sat at the table slurring his words, his face practically in his plate of food. As soon as he had finished he went upstairs, was sick and went to bed. His drinking is out of control, he has had 2 bad falls, the first, he smashed his head on the worktop as he fell. The 2nd was only last week, he fell coming out of the pub and did serious damage to his left leg, this resulted in me having to take him to A&E the following morning. Myself and my fiancé confronted him and asked him if he was unhappy or depressed and that's why he was drinking so much. He said no, he admitted that he may have a problem. He also said that he was going to stay away from the whiskey. 4 days later he bought another bottle of whiskey, I confronted him and said he'd said he was staying away from it. His excuse was it was just for a nightcap, the following evening he drank over half the bottle over 2 hours. I've just recently found out that I am expecting my first baby, which obviously myself and my fiancé are over the moon about. My dad doesn't know yet and I'm petrified to tell him. I've seen such a mean horrible side to him over the last year, the mood swings are constant, he can go for hours just not talking and ignoring people. As you can imagine this doesn't make for a nice living environment. When he retired he gave me some money towards my deposit on the house, it's almost as though he now sees it as it's his home, he even told our friends in the pub that it was his house. I don't ask him to contribute towards bills etc, he just pays for a little food shopping now and then. He works 2 nights a week at the moment also. He's just making me so miserable, I'm dreading telling him that I'm pregnant as I know he won't have anything nice to say about it. I don't want to have to ask him to move out as I know he wouldn't manage and he wouldn't be able to afford it. I'm sorry to go on and on, what I've explained is only the tip of the iceberg, things are, and have been bad for some time now and I'm at a loss as to what to do. We've tried talking to him but to no avail. Obviously, now, the last thing I want or need to put myself under this much stress now I know I have a baby to think about.
Try to avoid making hard decisions while you are pregnant. Your hormones are all over the place right now and so are your emotions.
Been there.
What seemed like a good idea then has definitely turned out to be not a good idea now. Changes must be made. Dad could make some changes by getting help with his alcoholism. I sincerely doubt he can conquer this alone.
You can make some changes by taking back your lives. He doesn't come home in time for Christmas dinner? Eat without him. Don't let your lives revolve around his problem behavior.
Ultimately the change may have to be that he doesn't live with you anymore. That is sad. That is not what you want. But you now also have to think of this new life you are bringing into the world.
Whom did your father divorce? - your mother or a lady not your relative? Any other dependants? What were the terms of the divorce? These things matter, too.
On what basis is the house owned? Are you the sole owner? Are you and your father joint tenants, or tenants in common? Does your fiancé own any part of it? You need to figure out and write down who owns what equity and who is liable for what liabilities, such as mortgage repayments, upkeep, utilities.
The reason that you need to address these issues, and not pretend even fleetingly to yourself that they're not there - e.g. "...I bought my first house shortly after and we moved home, he came with me." - is that you are pregnant and need to provide your child with a secure living environment.
Which you cannot do if you are sharing your home with a drunk who has every right to be there.
Your father is 67. He has retired and cashed in at least part of his pension. He is still working part-time. His drinking is now a serious problem - was it before? Was it, for example, a factor in the divorce? The point is that you need to assess your father as an independent unit, so that you can find out what options there are when it comes to separating him from your household.
You had better go back to the solicitor who handled your house purchase and find out what you need to do to untie the financial situation there.
You could go to your GP and ask for help with coping with your father's alcohol abuse - your GP will know what services are available in your area, for example.
I'll tell you what definitely won't work. You see your question up there? - "what's wrong with my father?" What won't work is hoping blindly that you'll be able to figure out and put right what's wrong with him, so that you can carry on as you are and everything will return to normal.
He may be a chronic alcoholic, or he may not. Either way, he is currently abusing alcohol to the extent of being a menace both to himself and to others; and in any case being an alcoholic makes you more likely, not less, to suffer depression and a host of other kinds of mental and physical ill health. In addition, he has recently undergone divorce, two house moves at least, and retirement - these are major life changes well known to have a huge impact on wellbeing. In short, what your father is coping with is a big deal - not something he can explain in one heartfelt conversation, or resolve to put right overnight.
You cannot give him adequate support so you need to find other options for him - before your baby arrives. It really is that simple.
This home is no longer yours alone,your fiancee has moved in and you are expecting a child together he should be taking on some of the responsibilities so maybe now is the time to find another home and start afresh together or you may end up a single mother once the icing is off the cake. Harsh I know but this is not a safe environment to bring a baby home to so get Dad out of your lives only he can make the changes.
If Dad harms himself to the point of needing nursing home care he will probably need Medicare and they will consider the money Dad contributed to the house as a gift and if it is within the five year look back period he will be penalized and you may be forced to sell the house anyway to give that money to Medicaid so act now while you still have choices. It is well worth the investment to get legal advice.
Once you talk to a lawyer, either buy out your father, or sell the house and give him his share. Then you can insist on living alone with your fiancé, and when you do that, you will be able to give your father The Ultimatum: either admit he has a drinking problem, get help (SERIOUS help: Alcoholics Anonymous or a rehab program) or he will not be welcome in your home, and will not be able to see his grandchild.
Your father seems to have serious emotional problems because of his divorce, his aging, etc. You can (and must) deal with those and be a loving daughter, but for the sake of your baby (and your relationship with your SO), you MUST be firm with him. And actually, that is the best thing for him, too.
It seems clear that he has reached the point where he has no consideration for you. You have to get the finances straightened out and protect yourself and your unborn child.
Considering his condition, he may be steering away from doctors, but, a medical exam would be ideal, so you will know what you're dealing with.
Having him launch on his own with this kind of issue is going to be challenging. Still, raising a child in the home with a person who is drinking to the point that it's disrupting the household is a terrible idea. It's not fair to a child or your husband. And it's not safe.
I'd figure a way to get him out of the house, that is fair and equitable....even if he resist. He may need detox and then rehab, but, I would think a medical exam would be good to figure out just how much damage has been done.
From the way you describe him, you'll have to take the lead and do the the right thing, since it seems he's not going to be in any condition to think clearly. I would seek support from a group like Al-anon and a medical professional.
The reason to point this out is to say, you need to get a dose of Reality in you. I don't even know that your letter belongs on a site about Aging Care. Even if he is unwell (I forget to read the "profiles"), you must do what is Right for you. Leave his health care to the state, because he is a danger to you. You definitely have a co-dependent relationship that is now "triangulated" with your fiance, and now a baby coming. Do you want that baby to grow up being afraid to face the truth? Or being afraid of Life? Not knowing who to trust? Do you want to continue to grow up that way?
Get that man out. He may not ever "hit bottom." There is no bottom for some. There can be lots, lots more, with the alcoholic never coming to a realistic state of mind.
I'm not blaming or judging you. Do what you need to do to get your father out of the house. Making ultimatums, any conversation about his drinking, Will Not Work.
After you get him out, or you move out and live with your beautiful family - get counseling. Actually, get that NOW. Because you were brought up by this man, and that means you have fears and co-dependency issues, coping issues that may unravel even with your fiance. Mom issues, even if Mom is gone, even if you don't remember her, you had a mother who allowed your alcoholic father to dominate. You had a mother, and you're about to be one.
Believe me, I am only saying all this because I KNOW. Almost 4 years in counseling now, a repeated pattern of shoddy relationships, an adult daughter with depression and obesity, who hasn't once had romance in her life. My little girl, the one I thought would be happy always, thanks to me. Now I have to work on being the parent I'd always wanted to be - stable, available, learning and modeling boundaries. We are, thank God, close - in some ways, closer than we were years ago.
You don't have any - boundaries - or you wouldn't have succumbed to your alcoholic father's "great plan" of helping you buy a house, so he could drink away and live rent-free, obligation-free. I don't care what he may pay sometimes. It's never even, and the psychological effects are long, long-ranging, generational.
Get away and get help now; make counseling FOR YOU a life-long commitment. Give yourself the gift of life and love with a wonderful husband and child. Blessed Be!
I would suggest that you and your husband have a sit-down with your father ASAP and lay out the boundaries, expectations, and rules (if you will) about his living in your home. As the parenting roles vs. children are reversed, it is your right and responsibility for your own sanity in keeping peace by setting the standards in YOUR home. Regardless of your father's claims about the home being his, you know the truth, so that shouldn't be an issue. Let him rant if it makes him feel better.
As far as his alcoholism, you will need to get outside help and intervention because he obviously doesn't care nor does he plan to stop, and maybe “can't” stop. There are many services, programs, and support groups to give you other options, support, and help in this.
I commend you for being there for your father. Don't give up. There IS help out there. You are not alone!
In fact a friend of mine just dealt with this a while back when a mutual friend of ours was drunk. He was a heavy drinker her and could really put it away. When people get drunk they often make no sense and they can get dangerous. Our mutual friend is living at my friends apartment because he's currently homeless. My friend had no problem with this mutual friend drinking in until things got out of hand late one night. My friend had no problem with this mutual friend drinking in until things got out of hand late one night. After sharing my story about barely surviving child abuse at the hands of my drunken parents and losing my sister, I sent a very firm warning and my friend decided it was time for our mutual friend to be cut off the alcohol once and for all. My friend decided no more alcohol for him as long as he's living there, and his girlfriend even said it'll be over if he ever again picks up another drink because he has previously assaulted her hit her and landed in jail for it. When he was in jail, they dried him out just like you would see on TV and he's still alive. This happens to be an older gentleman by the way and he was dried out more than once and still OK, so it won't hurt to cut off the alcohol cold turkey. If they can do it in jails, you can do it at home. Sometimes it takes jail but sometimes it takes the ultimatum at home and sometimes they'll just give up alcohol if they realize what it is they're losing because not only they can lose a home but also a loved one.
* If someone really loves you, they will accommodate for that and make healthy choices. If they don't, they'll choose unhealthy choices over you, and if they do, cut them out of your life and move on because they never cared about you.
Oh yes, I hope someone cracks down hard on federal benefits abuse including Medicaid abuse. There is already a move to cut off welfare from millions of people not entitled to it or no longer entitled to it and I'd love to see alcoholics cut off and forced to work, there only one kind of people draining our benefits dry and only one reason why our country is going broke. I've heard of situations where people getting welfare can be randomly asked to take a drug test, and I'd just love to see the same happened to alcoholics, because it shouldn't be the taxpayers enabling them either. Giving them benefits and a soft place to fall is a sure way for them to never hit rock bottom, removing all benefits and soft places will surely make them hit rock bottom. hitting rock-bottom, it's sure to force them into a place in their life where they start taking steps toward healthy choices. I hope our new president, Donald Trump reads this thread and takes something into very serious consideration, something really needs done now. One of his promises was to protect Social Security and Medicare and there are other federal programs that are attached to them. Protecting federal benefits should also include cutting off not only people not entitled to it but should also include alcoholics who would only be enabled by giving them money or any other type of program. They should be required to work within a treatment program to earn the money needed to pay for their own care, taxpayers should never have to pay for this whatsoever. If someone enters treatment, there should be a work program within the facility where people are made to work and if they don't work they're out on the street. No, taxpayers should definitely not be made to pay for such nonsense as enabling alcoholics or druggies
Next time he falls...call the ambulance....then tell the hospital that he needs to get substance abuse help or he will kill himself. An adult can be held in protective custody to deal with this.
Anyone who drinks regularly can become an alcoholic as the body adapts to this and wants it to continue. With the amount he is drinking, there is no doubt here about his being an alcoholic. Whether you can force him to go is another issue. If you have POA authority for his health care, you may be able to do this. Most people's health insurance pays for the care, I believe. If he can get him into treatment and then help him get to the AA meetings afterwards, he might beat this and have a better life with you and your family.