My husband has just been diagnosed with Vascular Dementia and my MIL was diagnosed with ALZ earlier this year. SIL has decided to take over from another state. However, she has resigned as 2nd Agent for MIL regarding Finances and Health. I am not an Agent but am awaiting the court ordered Guardianship of MIL to take over and juggling care for both people. SIL called to tell me she 'wanted mom's jewelry' and my husband's jewelry when they died. She also tells me how she wants me to take care of her mom. I gently remind her that she signed off on inheritance when she asked an attorney to become Guardian for her mother. Do I just tell her what I think? Or just listen. Or just hang up on her and say good riddance?
I admit I don't understand the "she signed off on inheritance when she asked an attorney to become Guardian..."
Anyway, tell her she's premature in demanding jewelry, and go find some roadkill instead...
Is the jewelry worth a lot of money? I might send her one piece from her mom and your husband if you feel like being generous. I'd just let her instructions for care go in one ear and out the other. If you feel like talking to her at all. She may have some dementia as well if it runs in the family. I'd certainly minimize contact with her. Tell us more of the story to help us give better suggestions.
Hang up.....🙋
Say....
Good riddance.😝💃
This job is hard enough without direction from the peanut gallery! You're awesome for doing this for them 💖
Is your husband’s jewelry heirlooms like from his father and thus her father? Does your husband have children? Wouldn’t that be a natural gift to his children?
I’m also confused as to why either of you automatically would assume inheritance based on guardianship?
Sounds wrong.
But I’m sure there is more to the story?
Edit: I would try to be kind to your SIL as long as her calls aren’t excessive. This is her family. You can then hang up the phone and do as you please and feel better about yourself.
Unless it is already too late to maintain some peace in the family, I think I'd keep contact with SIL brief, without being rude. "Oh. Someone is at the door and I'm expecting a delivery. We'll talk again soon. Bye."
Response to her advice about her Mother's care, "I'll keep that in mind."
As for what she wants when they die, "I have no control over that, but I'll keep your request in mind. You may want to talk to your mother's guardian regarding requests about her things."
She doesn't sound like someone who can be reasoned with, so I just wouldn't engage on those subjects.
Where is MIL now? Will that change when the new guardian becomes active? When will that be.
My heart goes out to you. Two loved ones diagnosed with dementia this year! You don't need stress from any outside sources! Just detach from SIL as much as you can without starting WW3 -- that would be stressful, too!
She then showed up and decided to take over.
My husband has always cared and done things for his mother. After cancer and a stroke he has not been in the best of shape.
SIL decided that I needed to take care of MIL's finances and everything else because she didn't understand checkbooks or medical stuff, but she wanted to be IN CHARGE.
And BTW while Mom was in the nursing home, she'd clean out her Mom's apartment.
We said Mom isn't dead and she could come back home, so leave it all.
SIL decided she would still take over and stayed with MIL after she got home from rehab.
MIL and SIL just fought. SIL tried to boss her mom around.
I made an appointment with an elder attorney for my husband and SIL so they could figure out 'what exactly' their responsibilities were. SIL decided then that her mother was too much of a bother. She resigned as 2nd choice.
SIL left and said she was never coming back except to claim items she felt belonged to her.
My husband has since been dx'd with dementia and his task abilities are such that they want me to take care of his medical decisions and perhaps financial. We have all of that set up for us already and we have been working closely together since he had cancer.
SIL knows that my husband has a nice ring that she feels she should have. My husband's wishes are that he be buried with it.
SIL said that she 'gets the jewelry' that her mom has. I personally don't care. I have no idea how much it could be worth, but it looks like costume stuff to me.
Since there is no one to be appointed in my husbands place and he is not capable of making decisions regarding his own health care, I talked to a Social Worker and we started proceedings to appoint a Guardian for Mom. SIL was okay with that.
When the Guardianship goes through court, the Guardian has full transfer of her estate which is not much other than some really nice antiques and this jewelry. I imagine it will go to auction.
SIL automatically assumes that she will get what she wants. I read the papers and feel like once the court hearing is over, it is like she divorced her mom. She is mentioned in the hearing as being unwilling to act as POA Agent.
She calls me and texts me to tell me what I should be doing for her mother and also for her brother.
She said she wanted this ring. Very bizarre, she said I can display my husband in the coffin but she'd steal it before the lid was closed.
I
was
speechless.
What I am still doing. Taking both husband and MIL to appointments, hubby's appts are 90 miles one way to a VA facility. MIL's appts are here and there.
I have been advised by the VA to stop taking care of all of MIL's things as the rehab for my husband will take all of my time.
I also have a small farm with cattle and equine.
So.
I have known SIL for a long time. I always just try to let her talk in one ear and out the other.
But the 'steal the ring' floored me.
I don't think I am wrong in saying I am just about fed up.
Anyway, she is not reasonable and told me that SHE is so stressed because her mom and brother have problems.
I sadly smile and nod. She only deals with these problems by phone.
Ignore the texts. Keep the calls short - phone battery dying is always a good out. Once the guardian is in place, you can breathe a bit easier since the guardian will be the person dealing with her "I want" list.
Emotional and physical energy is precious and finite - save it for yourself and DH. People like your SIL don't get it and never will, so don't waste energy explaining anything.
Why do you feel by giving up SILs POA and giving guardianship to someone else means she can't inherit? The will determines inheritance Guardianship stops at death. The Executor then takes over and must follow whatever is in the will. Do u think Mom will ever need Medicaid. If so, her antiques will need to be sold for her care. And at top prices. Can't be sold to a relative for cheap. I would take any jewelry you think maybe worth anything and put in a safe deposit box and anything else maybe worth anything. If MIL is able to stay in her home, I would change the locks not giving SIL a key.
With no provisions of a Will and MIL has dementia, I doubt her valuable possessions will go to family.
I have played nice with her for a long time.
More to the story? Perhaps, but I've had very little to do with my SIL for the past 22 years I've known her. She doesn't visit her brother but would visit her mom once every year for a few days and then spend the rest of the year complaining about her mother.
She doesn't work and has never worked.
I think I'll solve my problem by being decent to her as I normally do. However I will may lose my temper and give her a piece of my mind if she tells me what to do when that time comes for my husband.
SIL has been shunned from her husband's family for doing the exact same thing.
She then quipped that since she is moving across the United States and will be far away, she doesn't want to be bothered, but she will continue to keep up with things by phone.
And lastly, I should feel so badly for her as she has a mom and a brother who have health problems.
For the moment, MIL is in her apartment with Helping Hands. She has very poor memory but she is doing fairly well. She should have someone keeping a better eye on her. She forgets her meds once in a while even with a timed dispenser. She forgets days and confuses months and time frames. She won't use her walker and I am afraid she is a fall risk. We did get her Life Alert and people who are neighbors check on her. She can't drive per doctors orders and needs her medical and financial needs taken care of.
My advice is to just yes her to death about her mom's jewelry. Yes, she should get all the jewelry. Yes, but that's up to the guardian- what can you do? Yes yes yes.
You are very kind to take her phone calls. She sounds disturbed. I would be careful to safeguard your husband's ring if she comes to visit. And if he predeceases her, lay him out with the ring on one of his toes!
I am horrified by SIL.
As for my husband, he said his sister just 'wants' things because that is who she is. I let her talk and she tells me we 'must' stay in touch and informed.
Last night I found out that she is making a surprise visit here in two days.
My husband is fairly ill with COPD, CH, and Vascular Dementia. He may well go before his mother.
I will in the end stay nice unless she decides to tell me to go against my husband's wishes.
As for MIL's stuff? She will have to talk to MIL's attorney and Guardian.
Thank you all. I think this woman is wacky in the head, yes I do.
I may tell her off though which won't hurt my feelings. I'm sure I'll never hear from her again once her mom and brother pass.
And also, I'd like to clarify my statement about jewelry. Sometimes possessions have a great sentimental value and even if they aren't worth a lot of money, they are worth a lot to the person as a memento. It must be comforting to be remembered in a small way by someone you have loved by being given an object. So I understand why someone might want an object after a loss.
By staking a claim to all the objects, your sister in law is being very disrespectful of the roles both you and your husband have in the life of your mother in law. Her demand to have an object that belongs to your husband is really, really out of line.
My mom (88) is still hurt that she was offered nothing of her mom's when her mom passed away. And she was the only daughter! And do not get her started on her dad's ring, which was given to a cousin without even asking her if she'd like it. That happened decades ago- in the70s- and she will still chew on it if the subject comes up.
My grandparents had nothing really to leave anyone. I think my mom's continued hurt is more the feeling that she was not seen as important more than the loss of a material object.
All that aside- your SIL seems to have a screw loose. I'm sorry she isn't supporting you and your husband as you go through this tough time in your life. She's making it all about her. That's so unfortunate.
SIL should have something to remember her mom by.
However I draw the line at her telling me what to do with her brother when he dies.
SIL likes to suggest what I need to do to take care of her mother and her brother. She has no medical backround but loves to offer advice on one hand and in a second she then tells you how hard it is for her to go through this...
she is 4 hrs away and soon to move much further away.
I keep being nice. I think I'll just nicely tell her to butt out eventually. Thanks.