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If you mean Medicaid, they will bill her estate which is likely the properties you mention and maybe more. There's a five year "look back" on her assets, so if you sold her properties now and she lived more than five years, anything prior to that five year range would not count.
Different states have different laws, and I'm not an expert on this, so you may here from one of our Medicare/Medicaid experts. The advice I gave is very general but I did want your question answered.
Medicaid Estate Recovery Program (MERP) will kick in if she is on Medicaid. The Executor of her Will is responsible for seeing all bills are paid from the assets of the estate.
To help me further understand: Her bills for her nursing care are presently being covered by Medicaid but when she passes, her property is needed to pay back the government? So her care is basically a loan from Medicaid? Sorry to keep asking, but this is such a shock to all of us that we may have this gigantic bill for her care when a year ago, this probably would not have been true.
Ellenjay, MERP was in place when my parents went on Medicaid in 2000. We were made aware of the MERP requirement at that time. It is unfortunate that no one explained this to you adequately. Your conclusion that her care is a "loan from Medicaid" is a great way to look at it.
Ellenjay, unless your state has filial responsibility laws, they do not come after your assets to pay mom's bills. They will have a claim or a lien on HER exempt assets though. If her assets are spent on her care, that's it though. An estate planner or eldercare attorney can advise in more detail. If reasonable, any appropriate legal consultation fee can be paid from Mom's assets as well adn you may find that very worthwhile. One way I have heard it explained is that Medicaid is not in the business of preserving inheritances for loved ones, just providing care for those without other resources. I was also told it didn't used to be this way, that houses were still passed down from generation to generation, either because Medicaid did not use to do estate recovery or because facility or home nursing care did not cost so much...so don't be too embarrassed about not knowing how it works now! My mom actually thought her Medicare and her "long term care policy" (more or less a scam...it paid some but after much wrangling and contact with the state insurance commission, with a ridiculously low cap) was all she would ever need. Their estate planning company was just not the best, but it was a lot better than nothing. I found better advice by getting with an eldercare attorney whose website indicated he knew what he was doing with our state's Medicaid rules.
The "loan from the government" has been true for as long as Medicaid has been in existence. On February 8, 2006 the look-back time was changed from three years to five years. However, Medicaid has always been a program for the poor. This should have been explained to you somewhere along the line, since the fact that your mother's estate is responsible for the cost is really a shock for anyone who thinks otherwise. Once your mother's bills are paid, anything left is inheritance.
Even in states with a filial responsibility law on the book, the law is rarely (at this time) enforced. While our parents' care costs should rightly come from their assets, billing their children could put the family into bankruptcy, so I feel that the filial responsibility law is wrong. There's a big difference between paying from the assets of the people cared for and charging the family members. Good luck, Carol
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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Different states have different laws, and I'm not an expert on this, so you may here from one of our Medicare/Medicaid experts. The advice I gave is very general but I did want your question answered.
Take care,
Carol
Even in states with a filial responsibility law on the book, the law is rarely (at this time) enforced. While our parents' care costs should rightly come from their assets, billing their children could put the family into bankruptcy, so I feel that the filial responsibility law is wrong. There's a big difference between paying from the assets of the people cared for and charging the family members.
Good luck,
Carol